The word “scene” automatically conjures up images of spiky hair, tattoos, piercings, and live music blaring at decibels that should be reserved for supersonic testing at an Air Force base. Maybe this is due to being surrounded by the aforementioned in my adolescent years that causes this instant association for me. Even though I only carried out the music bit myself (I stuck out, and still would, in a crowd full of punk rockers), I realize there’s also an overarching social theme that pervades, and defines, any scene. Even the beer scene.
When I first joined the BeerAdvocate website, I couldn’t wait to post reviews, see what other people had to say about certain beers or better beer establishments, and keep tabs on what wild release was coming out next. Since then, my interest in these things has waned a bit, and even though I still love writing about beer and “reviewing” per se, I don’t have the urge to assign numbers. Not that I ever felt compelled to, but it aided categorization. After the arithmetic was done, some beers that I thought were above average seemed higher in rank, while others that were great seemed to fall down a step. I may go back to this, but I now much prefer rambling on this here soapbox, even if no one’s reading it.
Let me tell you where I’m going with this: a recent post in a BA forum by my buddy Ed sparked a train of thought about beer and socializing. The Alström brothers have even made mention of the social side of beer in their magazine in past issues. Nevertheless, the discussion all began at a tasting that I was too broke to attend, and was on the topic of the beer scene in central Virginia.
Some have mentioned that Virginia has a plethora of options for beer, whether it’s quality beer bars, bottle and keg shops, or access to a variety of imports and domestics that some states downright envy; we’ve got it made. But what about the people drinking the stuff? Obviously there’s demand for these products in our area, but how do these folks feel about what they’re drinking and the people around them who are doing the same?
Is there a “beer scene”?
I’m not so sure, at least about Richmond. Cultural elements play a part in defining this term, such as the social nature of pub culture in the UK. But how many people in the States have local boozers? And by local I mean in-your-neighborhood ones within walking distance, where people in your immediate area can likely be found more often than not.
But does this, in and of itself, even constitute a “beer scene”? You could argue it either way, what with cask beer being a source of pride for many a Briton, despite being surrounded by Euro lager establishments that seem to be much more popular with the younger crowd.
Since beer culture here in the United States doesn’t seem to have that initial cultural cohesion, is this what we’re striving for?
How about beer education; tastings, pairings, gatherings, traveling for events? Well, I must certainly say that our area is bereft of this kind of inquisitive nature, and I’ve resigned myself to the same attitude. Sure, there are events put on by a local bar here or there, or a beer festival Downtown for regional brewers, but not that grassroots kind of involvement where a dozen beer lovers gather for a round or two and shoot the shit. Steve and Ed are two guys from BeerAdvocate that I’ve grown fond of, and have shared more than a beer or two with these fellas. That’s exactly the kind of thing we do, but the ranks don’t seem to have grown.
I’ve mentioned some of the beer and cheese pairings Steve and I have set up in the past, and the last one was a big success. But, the catch is, it was mostly some of our friends who aren’t that into beer, and were there to hang out on a Sunday afternoon. No problem, they enjoyed the event and had a good time, but I doubt they were reaching for a Saison Dupont the next time they were out shopping for groceries. These weren’t the vocal beer lovers in the area. It was nice to give them an introduction to beer and cheese, but only a sliver of the people there were already into it and would show genuine interest in another one (or throwing their own).
The area homebrewers may be onto something. I’ve tasted their wares before and have been mighty impressed, but it’s an actual club with bylaws, dues, and everything. I’m thinking of something more like Cheers with good beer, you feel me? I just don’t know if making people feel obligated to do something is worth it; you should want to go to some fun event with quality brew, especially when it’s provided for free, right?
The irony is, with so many options for better beer, the people who are actually into it don’t appear to be coming together and celebrating it. But I gave up on my own brand of “beervangelism.” So if I call up Steve or Ed to go grab a beer, or have an impromptu tasting, I do so at my own discretion. I just don’t see people coming out to the advertised events, even if it means just a meet-up over a pint at one of Richmond’s fabulous locations.
Maybe this is just an issue locally/regionally/nationally. I’d be interested to hear anyone else’s take on the matter.
I’m only in my twenties and I feel like a crotchety old man already. Time for a beer.
Get the hell off my lawn.




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July 16, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Keith Brainard
I hear you about the beer rating systems. I was always finding my numerical results not matching up with my impression of the beers. Like you, I now prefer to blog about beer tasting/reviews.
As far as a beer scene, I just don’t really see one either. I live in Connecticut in a tourist town where we get lots of visitors this time of year. We have several fancy restaurants that I can walk to with wine lists the length of your leg, but nothing more than the ususal suspects for beer choices.
I have heard of bars where you can get a beer that you might find exciting, but I don’t have any near me. Even brewpubs in my state are mostly just seen as restaurants/bars by most people that visit them.
May you continue to create your local beer scene!
July 17, 2008 at 2:08 am
Boak
Thing is, people who have “beer scenes” don’t know they have them… only through reading American blogs have I really appreciated what we have in the UK. And of course there’s a difference between a lively pub scene and a “beer geek scene” – see Germany for example, where the pub is an important part of life, but hardly anyone seems that interested in what they’re drinking.
July 17, 2008 at 9:01 am
E.S. Delia
Thanks for the input! When these little rants spring up in my mind, I’m always curious as to how things are in other parts of the country/world, and how beer lovers feel about these topics as it relates to their neck of the woods.
Keith, your comment about brewpubs being seen as merely restaurants/bars rings true here. Capital Ale House is the perfect example. Even though it’s a bar, this place is a beer lover’s dream (although pricey at times), and they draw tons of people to each of their three locations in the area. They’ve even got a fourth one opening up out of town. But I’m not so sure it’s the array of excellent beer they provide; perhaps it’s just the idea of a lot of beer that attracts customers. I’m glad they can thrive from having so much traffic, but that’s why I’m thinking that may not be the best gauge of the “beer scene.” I feel your brewpubs are in the same boat.
And Boak, your comment pushes me to believe that what I’m searching for is too esoteric: a lively pub scene with laid-back beer geeks. Seems like it’s always one or the other, you know? That bothers me. Can’t we have a happy medium? I feel like there are enough like-minded beer drinkers out there. However, there are plenty of people I’ve met in the area who are definitely the “ticker” type. And while they possess knowledge of degrees Plato and formulae for calculating IBU, when I ask about some extremely rare beer they’ve tried, I don’t get much of a description on how it tastes. So while they appear to love beer on the surface, underneath it looks like more of a job than anything else. OCD at its worst, and that’s the other end of the spectrum from what Keith mentioned.
That’s a big part of my post: the irony that so many great options are available, yet no one seems genuinely interested. Throwing in Germany is also a great example of this phenomenon. One side of the fence couldn’t care less but has a good time, the other side is populated with people who are so obsessed they can’t possibly have a good time.
Anyone else facing the same problems? If so, have you made any successful strides to turn things around?
July 17, 2008 at 10:27 am
Pivní Filosof
I’m so lucky to be living in the Czech Rep. Not only the best pubs are usually those that tap the best pints (mostly from the big boys, though), but the addition of places like Pivní Tramvaj, Pivovarský Klub, Zlý Časy and others with rotating beers from smaller or micro brewers, plus the brewpubs out of the tourist area, has somehow mixed the best of both worlds, the lively pub and people who know and love what they are drinking. At these places you can find people, staff-owners included, to chat about the beer you are drinking or you have drunk at some other place sitting next to the bloke that came to knock down a few pints of whatever after work.
At a couple of these places they know me, and others, by name. I’m greeted with smiles, and always told what is going to be tapped next. They are like a second home.
This very interesting ranting of yours, of beer as a social phenomenon is somewhat related to the new edition of “La Ronda”, have a look here.
Now, can it be that the problem you point out is of the very nature of the geeks? The sense that many of them, regardless of the nature of their geekness, have of knowing all there is to know about their obsession?
About rating beers, I don’t believe in it for reasons I’ve already mentioned here here.
July 17, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Boak
I suppose that’s what I’m trying to say – in Britain, we do actually have a pretty happy medium. I can’t share the doom and gloom of some other real ale types, because at the end of the day, I’d rather have lots of nice, friendly pubs serving a couple of ales than a couple of esoteric beer geek places with ten handpumps and no atmosphere.
I’m exaggerating for effect – of course, you can have pubs with ten handpumps and atmosphere. I can only think of a couple, but that’s my London-centric attitude :-)
July 18, 2008 at 8:31 am
E.S. Delia
There are some beer bars here in Virginia that come close, but the true interest in the beer doesn’t seem to be there amongst the general populace. There doesn’t seem to be the desire to go a step further, without falling into obsession.
I hope to one day make it over to your corner of the world and experience that happy medium first-hand. Sounds more like what I’m looking for… more pub culture, less geek culture!
Come to think of it, though, I’m sure I seem like a beer geek to most. Damn… foiled again.
July 18, 2008 at 9:55 am
Bryan
I think you hit the nail on the head here:
“what I’m searching for is too esoteric: a lively pub scene with laid-back beer geeks”
It is too esoteric for a town as small as Richmond. You won’t have it here. Those of us who are seriously into beer come from all over town to hit various events, bars, and stores. If all of us lived in the same neighborhood (and none of us had kids – also an unlikely thing in as family-centric a town as Richmond is) what you’re calling a scene might be possible, but that will never happen.
But let’s look at the positives – it’s pretty easy to find like-minded people in Richmond.
Not so regular events:
1: Beer Geek Week
2: Kerstbier fest
3: Vintage beer tasting
4: Occasional beer dinners
5: 2 craft beer festivals – The recent VA one and the Shockoe fest in August (btw – do you know if that happening again this year?)
Regular Events:
1: Monthly beer dinner at Can Can.
2: Monthly tasting at Westpark.
3: Monthly tasting at RCC.
3: Weekly (used to be anyway) tasting at Corks & Kegs
4: Steal the glass night, weekly at 3 CAH locations.
There’s actually quite a bit going on, and I’m sure I’m missing some.
Let me talk about STG for a minute – this is really as close as you’re going to come for what you’re looking for. Every time I go by myself, I find someone to talk to about the beer we’re drinking – or other beers in general. Nope, I don’t know them. Nope, most of them are not “beer geeks” It’s not Cheers. But it is friendly, and finding people who are into beer is not that hard to do.
Of course it could be better – it could almost always be better. All I’m saying is that it’s not all doom and gloom.
July 18, 2008 at 4:13 pm
E.S. Delia
Bryan, you do make some valid points. Steal the Glass and the Geek festivals are the two events I can think of that foster this kind of atmosphere. I don’t hit the store tastings as often as I’d like to, but have enjoyed the few I’ve been to around town.
My issue with the fests and the dinners are this: the prices can make them tough to attend. And I understand that it costs more money for specialty releases and cask-edition and what have you, but something like STG is a little more egalitarian, if you will. My experiences there mirror yours: most of the time, you run into beer-minded people. I hadn’t thought of that. Lately, with traveling and personal expenses, I haven’t been able to join in the fun as much.
(By the way, Shockoe Craft Beer Fest did seem reasonably priced last year, even if it was 100 degrees in the shade. Not sure if it’s happening again this year, but I’m keeping an eye out for it.)
As far as Richmond being a small town, I’d beg to differ. The metropolitan statistical area is a couple million strong. But, you’re right about being spread out. Whether it’s way out in Chesterfield, Short Pump, or Mechanicsville, there are lots of clusters of people living outside Richmond proper, and that makes cohesion difficult. I think Cap Ale has the right idea by catering to each cluster.
I also think there’s a certain sociability that the scene here is lacking. Going by the examples you’ve pointed out, there are plenty of opportunities in the area, and I tried to express that in the original post.
Perhaps what I’m getting as is this: there doesn’t seem to be much grassroots action going on from the people who love good beer. Sure, you can show up to an event that you pay for, that’s been put on for you, maybe see folks every once in a blue moon, but what about getting together for your own tasting? What about going to one of these fine bars and just having a pint, rather than a $50 festival? These small measures, especially local events advertised at BA, hardly generate any response. If it weren’t for you and scant few others, you’d hardly know anyone would want to attend these kinds of things!
I also think you’re right about two more things:
1. It’s not all doom and gloom. I’d just like to see some fresh faces and familiar ones more often.
and
2. What I’m looking for is probably a bit pie-in-the-sky. Still, I love to stir the pot and see what everyone else thinks. There will always be kids, money issues, time constraints, and the like that can keep us from enjoying the aforementioned opportunities. As long as there are still times to savor good beer with like-minded folk, I’ll see you there!
July 18, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Bryan
I suppose small town might have had some connotations to it that I didn’t intend. We’re a small city. According to the all knowing wiki, the Richmond metro had an estimated population of 1.1 million in 2007. That’s not even the largest metro in VA. When you compare it to cities like NY or DC or SF, where you’d probably be more likely to find the kind of scene you’re talking about, we’re pretty small.
That’s all I meant. I more or less agree with you on the rest of it.
July 18, 2008 at 8:51 pm
E.S. Delia
Max, just wanted to address your points, as the comment approval came up for some reason. First of all, you are a lucky so-and-so! Wish I could’ve given your city a proper visit when I was there! I think another advantage to a good “scene” is a dependable public transportation system that can get you where you need to go relatively quickly. Many American cities appear to lack one, it’s only the major metro areas that are afforded this luxury.
Which is also what Bryan seems to be hinting at. The sprawling nature of many of these places hurts accessibility. And again, you’re right about one more thing, we’re definitely small potatoes compared to DC, SF, or NYC; look in those cities and you’ll find a beer scene we couldn’t shake a stick at. Like you, I’m pleased at the opportunities we have. We may just need to convert more folks!
However, being on a first-name basis with some of the employees and regulars at the local beer bars is a reason for me to smile, and it puts my fears to bed about a decaying “scene.” There is indeed a silver lining in this one.
July 19, 2008 at 5:07 am
Pivní Filosof
I hadn’t though about the public transportation, and you are very right. Being able to stop by a pub, check out what’s going on and then move on to another one at the other end of town is priceless.